InHouse of the Dragonseason two , Heleana Targaryen ( Phia Saban ) does n’t partake any prospect with Daemon Targaryen ( Matt Smith)—untilthe close , when she look inDaemon’sGame of Thrones - reference vision of the future . Considering the characters ’ potent tie thus far is thatHeleana ’s son was murderedas a 2d - choice fair game by assassins engage by Daemon to defeat Heleana ’s brother , Aemond ( Ewan Mitchell ) , it was a surprising moment .

That Song of Ice and Fire interlude is also the main thing anyone ’s talk about from theHouse of the Dragonfinale , soVarietyasked Saban her thinking about the scene . We first see Heleana within Daemon ’s vision — she recite him “ You know your part … You cognise what you must do”—then it cuts to her in real life , where she informs Aemond she is absolutelynotgoing to join him in battle . What ’s more , she knows how he ’s going to go bad .

“ My feeling is n’t that she was giving Daemon advice because she want him to succeed , ” Saban say the trade . “ I think choosing between one team and the other suggest that you think anything can materialize , and I conceive to a certain extent , she feel a little piece exceed above that . She has a clear survey of this end that ’s in sight . And I would n’t say that she knows it innately , but I remember she knows enough to be like , it ’s not about who ’s on the crapper next — we’re all going in the same steering .

Aemond (Ewan Mitchell) tries to convince his sister, Heleana (Phia Saban), to join his fight.

Aemond (Ewan Mitchell) tries to convince his sister, Heleana (Phia Saban), to join his fight.© Ollie Upton/HBO

“ I would also say about the scene with Daemon , it ’s more or less left up to what the audience opine about how much she is there — present in his dream . Maybe she ’s a acoustic projection of something he wants to tell himself , especially since he hurt her so much with her boy and everything . From a psychoanalytical position , maybe it ’s all about him , and maybe it ’s not that real . ”

Saban also has thoughts on what Heleana tells her brother . “ I do n’t think she thinks that it will necessarily change his path , ” she say . “ It ’s just a little moment where she stands up for herself . ”

guide to Variety to read the rest of the interview , which also features Saban ’s public resolve that she really wants Heleana toget a dragonriding scenebeforeHouse of the Dragonreaches its close .

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